Re: NP - Fuck You and Your “Democrats Have to End Identity Politics to Win” Bullshit

[David Morris]

More simply (and accurately) the identity politics of the Left is
inclusion.  The identity politics of the Right is exclusion.

David Morris

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Becky Lindroos <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

> Both sides seem to have gone in for a whole lot of identification politics
> -  with liberals it’s been more of a self-identification but with
> conservatives (or Trumpsters) it’s been an “other-identification.”   Let’s
> ban “others,”   Muslims from the country,  gays from being served,  blacks
> from voting rights -  the list goes on.
>
> And the “color-blind” stuff is bizarre because the only place that’s going
> to mean anything is in the counts -  how many blacks are registered to
> vote,  how many minority would-be renters were discriminated against, how
> many non-white loans were refused.   Then we’re simply not going to know
> how many workers were not hired because they simply “wouldn’t fit in with
> the company.”  That’s called “color blind.”  lol -
>
> Read “Give Us the Ballot” by Ari Behrman -  discusses “color blind” at
> length,  the people who support it,  the people it hurts.
>
> Becky
>
>
>
> > On Dec 9, 2016, at 6:17 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Um.  Sorry.  It's easy to misunderstand email sarcasm.
> >
> > David
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:45 AM, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Um... I think I was agreeing with you?
> >
> > J.
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 10:33 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > Are you deaf to the point that all these dozens of anti identity
> politics
> > > critiques are FUCKING STUPID?  "Identity" criticism is ALL about
> offending
> > > the white poor minority because of inclusion politics.  It is that
> simple.
> > > They are afraid that minorities are getting more help than them.  Anti
> > > identity politics is all about misplaced resentment of others'
> advancement.
> > > It is the white hillbilly resenting the Cadillac queen.
> > >
> > > David Morris
> > >
> > > On Thursday, December 8, 2016, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Holy crap, are you SERIOUS?!
> > >>
> > >> Swing a dead cat and you'll hit a dozen "hot takes" about how the
> > >> Democrats lost by indulging in "identity politics".
> > >>
> > >> If you're sincerely interested, Google is your friend.
> > >>
> > >> J.
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 7:47 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> > That sure is an idiosyncratic take. Can you point  to a single
> instance
> > >> > of
> > >> > that in any medium?
> > >> >
> > >> > David Morris
> > >> >
> > >> > On Thursday, December 8, 2016, Chris v <traditionalgb at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> when some of these people say 'identity politics' they are
> referring to
> > >> >> how critics of hillary clinton's hawkish attitude towards
> palestine and
> > >> >> her
> > >> >> association with goldman sachs were commonly accused of being
> sexist.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 5:01 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> https://www.balloon-juice.com/2016/12/08/fuck-you-and-your-
> democrats-have-to-end-identity-politics-to-win-bullshit/
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> If I read one fucking more thinkpiece, blog post, semi-literate
> tweet,
> > >> >>> or
> > >> >>> facebook forward blaming whatever the fuck “identity politics” is
> for
> > >> >>> Democrats losing the election I am going to lose completely and
> > >> >>> totally lose
> > >> >>> my shit and climb a fucking bell tower. I don’t even know what
> people
> > >> >>> mean
> > >> >>> when they say identity politics anymore. So let me ask you:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Is it identity politics when you cater to white supremacists, the
> > >> >>> Klan,
> > >> >>> and neo-nazis to win an election?
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Is it identity politics when you say white lives matter or blue
> lives
> > >> >>> matter?
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Is it identity politics when you cheer building a wall to keep out
> > >> >>> rapey
> > >> >>> Mexicans?
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> [...]
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> ***
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> No. Of course not. What you mean when you say “identity politics”
> is
> > >> >>> you
> > >> >>> mean all those groups you want to systematically oppress try to
> stand
> > >> >>> up and
> > >> >>> defend themselves and it hurts your feelings because you can’t
> have
> > >> >>> your
> > >> >>> way. In politics, it’s called COALITION BUILDING.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> >
>
> Becky
> https://beckylindroos.wordpress.com
>
>
>
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