NP: Q re Jung Order

Wed Feb 17 03:08:35 CST 2016

It was Grof who suggested calling LSD a psychotomimetic drug, rather than a
psychedelic one, because the symptomology of LSD intoxication closely
mimics schizophrenia. In the area of contemporary psych, it is once again
being offered as a likely treatment for extreme alcoholism.

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On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 8:22 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

> I would volunteer in a second! I love shrooms much better than acid. And
> present day acid is basically X. Not anywhere near 60s acid. Shrooms are so
> gentle. 60s acid was almost violent. I had good and bad trips. The really
> bad one almost made me insane, at the age of 14. But I was rescued, in an
> instant, from mind gone out into the nowhere, not knowing who I was, where
> I was, only knowing I was in complete fear, and not in my body, to being
> rescued by a prayer, and feeling my soul being instantly zapped back into
> my body. I was only 14 then. An early age to go insane.
>
> David Morris
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 16, 2016, Allan Balliett <allan.balliett at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> A good demonstration of how far the public mind has changed about
>> psychedelic research in the last few years is author Tim Ferris' Crowdrise
>> fund raise for psilocybin research at Johns Hopkins. The best demonstration
>> is that Tim was seeking $80,000. he's already raised $87,000 and his crowd
>> sourced funding campaign is continuing, with the donations over $80k going
>> to other John Hopkins psilocybin research projects that remain underfunded.
>>
>> Essentially, there are indications that a few good mushroom trips can
>> lift individual out of deep depressions that Western medicine isn't able to
>> remediate. Apparenly, many depressed older individuals have
>> taken psilocybin recently and gained a renewed appreciation for Life and
>> the World.
>>
>> I know what they are talking out. I sincerely doubt that I would have
>> made it this far in life without the insights I gained about the Nature of
>> Reality from sacred plants or their laboratory analogies. Deluded? Maybe,
>> but it sure worked. (On the wonky side, one time when I was tripping, far
>> from any telephone, probably lying with my eyes closed on a bed somewhere,
>> Kurt Vonnegut called me. I recognized his voice instantly and will never
>> forget what he said to me: "Allan, How's that book coming along?" All sorts
>> of crystalline fractals raced through my nervous system from that one
>> question for I don't know how long but I do know this: Vonnegut's question,
>> real or imaginary, was enough to renew my motivation for writing enough to
>> keep me getting up hours before work every day to work on my book for
>> another six weeks.
>>
>> I could use that sort of a jumpstart again right now, that's fer sure.
>>
>> It's never dawned on me that they may not be getting enough volunteers
>> for the study at Hopkins. God knows I've got the depression diagnosis on a
>> sheet of paper somewhere around here already....
>>
>> Important to know that Crowdrise, the inspired crowd funding site, is the
>> brainchild of actor Ed Norton (who, btw, claims to be 6 feet tall)  He
>> celebrates the freedom people are given when they can support ideas that
>> get zero support from existing institutions. In this way it's Norton who is
>> jumpstarting our co-evolution, leaping over the 50 year wait that
>> Buckminster Fuller said the establishment needs to act on a truly new idea.
>>
>> Read about Ferris' fundraiser here:
>> https://www.crowdrise.com/timferriss/fundraiser/timferrissprofile
>>
>> Or read a little about it here:
>>
>> [NOTE: Any funds in excess of $80,000 will be applied to strengthening
>> this or other psilocybin studies at Johns Hopkins. They have several
>> prepared.]
>>
>> I am helping researchers in neuroscience and psychiatry at Johns Hopkins
>> University School of Medicine to conduct a pilot study of psilocybin in the
>> addressing of treatment-resistant depression.
>> A recent but still unpublished study at Johns Hopkins demonstrated rapid,
>> substantial, and sustained (lasting up to six months) antidepressant and
>> anxiolytic (anti-anxiety) effects of a single dose of psilocybin in
>> psychologically-distressed patients with life-threatening cancer
>> diagnoses.  This is incredibly exciting. What if we could decrease or avoid
>> altogether the known side-effects (and frequency of consumption) of current
>> antidepressant drugs like SSRIs?
>> This study could help establish an alternative.
>> Current popular antidepressant medications have significant adverse side
>> effects, with up to 50% of patients failing to respond fully and as many as
>> 30% remaining completely resistant. Major depression is a common and often
>> devastating psychiatric disorder. Individuals with depression are at a much
>> greater risk of suicide than the general population.
>> Psilocybin has been safely consumed by humans for millennia. Despite
>> this, the study of entheogens like psilocybin was blocked for several
>> decades due to political rather than scientific factors.  Now, we can
>> finally explore the therapeutic and medical potential of these powerful
>> compounds.
>> Besides me (Tim Ferriss), public supporters of this research include:
>> Eric Weinstein, managing director of Thiel Capital, Ph.D. in Mathematical
>> Physics from Harvard, research fellow at the Mathematical Institute of
>> Oxford University
>> Naval Ravikant, CEO of AngelList, renowned tech investor (Uber, Yammer,
>> Twitter, Postmates OpenDNS, etc.)
>> Matt Mullenweg, CEO of Automattic, lead developer of WordPress (powers
>> ~25% of the Internet)
>> And many other innovators in business and tech
>> The study on this page will determine the efficacy of psilocybin in
>> treatment-resistant depression, and will also use cutting-edge brain
>> imaging to clarify the mechanism of action of psilocybin's antidepressant
>> effects.
>> In the world of science, it is a rare opportunity to be able to conduct
>> such potentially groundbreaking work for a mere $80,000.  It’s almost
>> unheard of.  Psilocybin has the potential to revolutionize the treatment of
>> major depression that cannot be properly addressed with current
>> treatments.  This also applies to end-of-life care for terminally-ill
>> cancer patients (more on this in the Michael Pollan New Yorker feature
>> entitled “The Trip Treatment").
>> I hope you’ll join me— and the above thought leaders—in this campaign. It
>> could spark a huge shift in the national conversation about entheogens and
>> their place in medicine.
>> Contributions to this study are fully tax-deductible and each donor will
>> receive a tax receipt. Johns Hopkins is a 501(3)c organization.
>> I am personally committing at least $100,000 to entheogen/psychedelic
>> research this year (2016). A portion of that will go to this study.
>> If you prefer to donate appreciated securities, please email mdevito1
>> [AT] jhmi {DOT} edu
>>
>>
>>
>>  https://www.crowdrise.com/timferriss/fundraiser/timferrissprofile
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I recently read One of Grof’s Books. Very worthwhile IMO. Interesting
>>> how the whole issue of birth trauma has faded almost completely from modern
>>> psychiatry/psychology.??? He too developed techniques to induce trance
>>> states but avoid the restrictions on psychedelics.
>>>
>>> I think some techniques work better on people who can be hypnotized.
>>> Not everyone can be even if they might like to be.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Feb 16, 2016, at 5:08 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://www.stanislavgrof.com/wp-content/uploads/pdf/A_Brief_History_of_Transpersonal_Psychology_Grof.pdf
>>> >
>>> > A Brief History of Transpersonal Psychology
>>> > By Stanislav Grof, MD
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> > As far as  New Age, channeling, the lovely and vivaciously weird
>>> Shirley Mclaine etc., not much to say . I was headed in a different
>>> direction at that time.  As far as psychedelics and meditation, It would be
>>> a very intense form of meditation, but there is  a guy named Mike Siegel
>>> who is trying to engineer a biofeedback system that might guide people
>>> toward transcendent mind states( let’s not quibble about terms, if you have
>>> taken psychedelics you know that none are adequate). His preparatory work
>>> included monitoring brain states for psychedelic use and for advanced
>>> practitioners of yoga/meditation. There did seem to be signifigant
>>> similarities in his research but  these were serious yogis. .  I have only
>>> started meditating daily for 2 months thoghh qi gong does similar things
>>> and I have been practicing for 4 years this month). With meditation I have
>>> only had 2 experiences even remotely resembling psychedelics.  I am an
>>> artist and pretty good with visual imagination, and these 2 times were very
>>> pleasant and mindbending experiences but far less psychologically or
>>> visually intense than psychedelics.  They are also for me anyway harder to
>>> achieve. Buddhism opposes inebriants  and that clouds the issue. but I know
>>> at least one  decades long Tibetan Buddhist who uses psychedelics. So to
>>> indulge what may come off as new age lingo-  the idea that plant compounds
>>> have a role in the spritual ecology of humans and the larger planet does
>>> not seem the least bit far fetched or problematic to me. But I do suspect
>>> there are other routes into very intense altered states.
>>> >
>>> > One thing that is rarely discussed with psychedelics is the long term
>>> effects on a person’s outlook  and thinking. IMO the thrill ride is great
>>> but not the main show.
>>> >
>>> > Siegel:
>>> https://psychedelicsalon.com/podcast-456-engineering-enlightenment-2/
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> On Feb 16, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Allan Balliett <
>>> allan.balliett at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> The most misleading idea, though, would have to be the idea that
>>> meditation can be a replacement for psychedelics, if you ask me.
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
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