TTIP Leaks

[David Morris]

Obama's support of TTIP does not make him part of the "gleeful-hand-rubbing
evil conspiracy."  I believe he is sincere in his belief that it is,
overall, good for the US (and the world).  And, God knows, he's been the
best US president since WAY back before I was born (1958).

David Morris

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, I'm not arguing such politics here anymore, but the wholesale
> jettisoning of
> the last 8 years reminds me, in the only way I can be obliquely
> half-creative or half-assed
> obliquely wrong, of nothing less than Gore Vidal on Gravity's Rainbow. How
> could he not see
> anything good in the book?
>
> Yeah, Obama's whole cabinet was worse than useless.
>
> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately Kai, a great many people think Obama is a hero who is
>> trying to work for the people, but who has been foiled by the evil
>> Republicans.  This TTIP and the TPP trade agreements( both with bi-partisan
>> support) are complete betrayals of Roosevelt’s attempts to reform
>> capitalism and make it accountable to democratic process and humane ethics.
>> The European people are right to be appalled. Meanwhile it barely makes the
>> news here, we are distracted by the tremendous farts of the T-Rump lizard
>> king and a broken voting system.
>>
>> The GATT and NAFTA and the rejection of Glass Stagall were Clinton’s
>> contributions to the Neo Colonial/ neo-liberal enterprise. That our recent
>> presidents serve secretively developed international Corporate Law whose
>> net effect is devastating our national economy and contributing to
>> international exploitation, and that they  do so with so little resistance
>> is a sign of how manipulable the public is. Bernie is a sign that the the
>> control of the elite is more tenuous than anyone knew.
>>
>> The myth of Obama as a force for reform should have ended when he
>> appointed his first cabinet, a motley collection of war criminals, CIA
>> favorites,  corporate swindlers,  banksters and a wall street lawyer for
>> attorney general.
>>
>>
>> > On May 2, 2016, at 5:32 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen <
>> lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > > Whether you care about environmental issues, animal welfare, labour
>> rights or internet privacy, you should be concerned about what is in these
>> leaked documents. They underline the strong objections civil society and
>> millions of people around the world have voiced: TTIP is about a huge
>> transfer of power from people to big business. <
>> >
>> > http://www.ttip-leaks.org/
>> >
>>
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