not Martin but Mircea

Mark Thibodeau jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com
Fri May 20 17:43:44 CDT 2016


Actually, I'm a Foucault's Pendulum guy.

That, and Travels in Hyper-Reality.

And The Prague Cemetery.

NOTR I can take or leave. Cute movie tho.

Cheers,
Jerky

On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Jochen Stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com> wrote:
> Don't hold grudges, just remember things.
>
> And what you mean by compare is not what the dictionary means.
>
> I like what you do and write but cannot understand what that person that
> appreciates Gravity's Rainbow (or Vineland) appreciates in The Name of the
> Rose.
>
> C'est bizarre.
> (http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=marcel+carne+jouvet+bizarre&&view=detail&mid=15A926D420185824183D15A926D420185824183D&rvsmid=C5176167CFCF48DFD0CDC5176167CFCF48DFD0CD&fsscr=0&FORM=VDQVAP)
>
> All the best
>
> Jochen
>
> 2016-05-21 0:22 GMT+02:00 Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>:
>>
>> I assume this is directed at me.
>>
>> By "compare", I didn't mean you couldn't measure one against the
>> other, which I think is pretty obvious. I simply meant that Eliade
>> leaves Heidegger in the dust when it comes to virulent, hateful,
>> murderous anti-Semitism. And I think that's inarguable.
>>
>> Furthermore, if you think Heidegger's thoughts re: Jews and Modernism
>> are beyond some kind of pale, then you're most likely an irrational
>> hysteric and any attempt at discussion would most likely prove
>> fruitless.
>>
>> Also, your bizarre non sequitur re Pynchon vs. Eco - a call-back to a
>> minor disagreement we had like half a year ago - signals to me that
>> you're the kind of person who holds a grudge like a canvas holds
>> paint, and thus best avoided.
>>
>> Take care,
>> yer old pal Jerky
>>
>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Jochen Stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Why not?
>> >
>> > If you say "far more" you goddam compare.
>> >
>> > Both were anti-Semites when it was the premier cri and when it was not
>> > they
>> > never said sorry.
>> >
>> > I even compare Pynchon and Eco because one is a giant and one was a
>> > dwarf
>> > "compared" to him.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2016-05-20 23:57 GMT+02:00 Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>:
>> >>
>> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mircea_Eliade
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >> From: Jochen Stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com>
>> >> Date: Thu, May 19, 2016 at 1:31 AM
>> >> Subject: not Martin but Mircea
>> >> To: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> In the annals of anti-Semitism, Romania holds a particularly egregious
>> >> position. For example, it is estimated that 130,000 local Jews were
>> >> slaughtered in Romanian-occupied Ukraine, and that Romanian forces
>> >> massacred
>> >> 150,000 Jews in the area of Odessa and Golta. In a pogrom in 1941, as
>> >> Sebastian records in his Journal, Jews were herded into an abattoir and
>> >> hanged by the neck on meat hooks. “A sheet of paper was stuck to each
>> >> corpse: ‘Kosher Meat.’”
>> >>
>> >> Of course, Romania was not unique in this regard. In the early years of
>> >> Nazi conquests in Eastern Europe the ravening enthusiasm for pogroms
>> >> among
>> >> the indigenous populations of countries such as Poland, Lithuania, and
>> >> Estonia startled even the SS. However, the detestation of Jews among
>> >> all
>> >> levels of Romanian society, particularly intellectuals, was
>> >> unrelenting.
>> >> Here is a typical outburst, recorded in the Journal in September 1939:
>> >>
>> >> The Poles’ resistance in Warsaw is a Jewish resistance. Only yids are
>> >> capable of the blackmail of putting women and children in the front
>> >> line, to
>> >> take advantage of the Germans’ sense of scruple…. What is happening on
>> >> the
>> >> frontier with Bukovina is a scandal, because new waves of Jews are
>> >> flooding
>> >> into the country. Rather than a Romania again invaded by kikes, it
>> >> would be
>> >> better to have a German protectorate.
>> >>
>> >> Who might the speaker be? Some embittered partisan, perhaps, or a
>> >> street-corner orator? No: the speaker is Mircea Eliade, one of
>> >> Romania’s
>> >> leading scholars and writers of the time, who after the war slipped
>> >> away to
>> >> America and there became a highly respected and influential thinker and
>> >> historian of religions. In 1937 Eliade says of a left-wing student
>> >> flogged
>> >> by Iron Guardists that personally he would have put his eyes out as
>> >> well.
>> >> Sebastian writes, “Perhaps one day things will have calmed down enough
>> >> for
>> >> me to read this page to Mircea and to see him blush with shame.”
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2016/05/26/surrounded-by-jew-haters/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=NYR%20Prisons%20Uganda%20anti-Semitism&utm_content=NYR%20Prisons%20Uganda%20anti-Semitism+CID_ab89f8bfb0519728730ad1d09ee20312&utm_source=Newsletter&utm_term=Surrounded%20by%20Jew-Haters
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>
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