BtZ42/10 Stone-white cervix

David Morris fqmorris at gmail.com
Sat May 21 15:06:26 CDT 2016


Brown is fecundity.  White is sterility.

It's interesting that the Japanese color for death is white, but the
Western color for death is black.

Re. fecundity, and Pynchon's love of pigs,  both featured large in the
Saturnalia festival, that is pigs and fecundity...  Pigs are a Roman symbol
of fertility.

Pigs, Shit, and Fecundity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturnalia

*Saturnalia* was an ancient Roman festival
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_festival> in honour of the deity
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Roman_deities> Saturn
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_(mythology)>, held on 17 December of
the Julian calendar <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_calendar> and
later expanded with festivities through to 23 December. The holiday was
celebrated with a sacrifice at the Temple of Saturn
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_Saturn>, in the Roman Forum
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Forum>, and a public banquet, followed
by private gift-giving, continual partying, and a carnival
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnival> atmosphere that overturned Roman
social norms <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Roman_culture>: gambling
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dice#History> was permitted, and masters
provided table service for their slaves
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_ancient_Rome>.[1]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturnalia#cite_note-1> The poet Catullus
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catullus> called it "the best of days"

Topsy Turvy Reality, "The best of days."

David Morris

On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 3:28 PM, János Széky <miksaapja at gmail.com> wrote:

> In the Shit 'n' Shinola subchapter, V 688.
>
> 2016-05-21 21:27 GMT+02:00 Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>:
>
>> Demonic vision: racial fantasy and southern fiction - Page 133
>> <https://books.google.com/books?id=t7RZAAAAMAAJ&q=Pynchon+%2B+blacks'+skin+the+color+of+shit&dq=Pynchon+%2B+blacks'+skin+the+color+of+shit&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi58d3j8uvMAhUEWT4KHdBWDvQQ6AEIIzAB>
>>
>> <https://books.google.com/books?id=t7RZAAAAMAAJ&q=Pynchon+%2B+blacks'+skin+the+color+of+shit&dq=Pynchon+%2B+blacks'+skin+the+color+of+shit&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi58d3j8uvMAhUEWT4KHdBWDvQQ6wEIJDAB>
>> https://books.google.com/books?id=t7RZAAAAMAAJ
>> Alan Henry Rose
>> <https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&safe=active&tbm=bks&tbm=bks&q=inauthor:%22Alan+Henry+Rose%22&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi58d3j8uvMAhUEWT4KHdBWDvQQ9AgIJTAB> -
>> 1976 - ‎Snippet view - ‎More editions
>> <https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&safe=active&tbm=bks&q=editions:zKMOALl80VkC&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi58d3j8uvMAhUEWT4KHdBWDvQQmBYIJjAB>
>> For Pynchon's black men are touched by the white psychological process
>> which associates the Negro's color with death: Shit, now is the color white
>> folks are afraid of. Shit is the presence of death, not some abstract-arty
>> character with a scythe ...
>> Thomas Pynchon - Page 197
>> <https://books.google.com/books?id=tD5bAAAAMAAJ&q=Pynchon+%2B+blacks'+skin+the+color+of+shit&dq=Pynchon+%2B+blacks'+skin+the+color+of+shit&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi58d3j8uvMAhUEWT4KHdBWDvQQ6AEIKDAC>
>>
>> <https://books.google.com/books?id=tD5bAAAAMAAJ&q=Pynchon+%2B+blacks'+skin+the+color+of+shit&dq=Pynchon+%2B+blacks'+skin+the+color+of+shit&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi58d3j8uvMAhUEWT4KHdBWDvQQ6wEIKTAC>
>> https://books.google.com/books?id=tD5bAAAAMAAJ
>> Harold Bloom
>> <https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&safe=active&tbm=bks&tbm=bks&q=inauthor:%22Harold+Bloom%22&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi58d3j8uvMAhUEWT4KHdBWDvQQ9AgIKjAC> -
>> 1986 - ‎Snippet view - ‎More editions
>> <https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&safe=active&tbm=bks&q=editions:TIUodZmscYoC&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi58d3j8uvMAhUEWT4KHdBWDvQQmBYIKzAC>
>> The simpleminded Marvy sees blacks as bestial threats to American purity,
>> while the more complex Tchitcherine reacts to ... insistence on ignoring
>> death: Shit, now, is the color white folks are afraid of. ... Together they
>> are a long skin surface  ...
>>
>> On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 3:09 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> And he's being impregnated by a big brown shlong.  Isn't there someplace
>>> in GR where Pynchon says whites fear blacks because their skin is the color
>>> of shit?  Maybe that's in V.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 21, 2016, János Széky <miksaapja at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 63 (Virgin pagination) While shit is prime reification in the Freudian
>>>> context, here the child, first giving back what makes him an adult,
>>>> including alcohol, is being born back through the "stone-white cervix".
>>>>
>>>> Also note the various signs or colors of coldness (stone-white,
>>>> porcelain, silver) contrasted with organic brown. Animate-inanimate.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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