BtZ42/10 Stone-white cervix

[Mark Kohut]

And regarding race and Slothrop....under truth serum, Pynchon has him
reveal the prejudices, fears and stereotypes of his time and class.
"Talking of Negroes makes you uncomfortable" PISCES knows....there are the
hands all over his ass and the fear of taking it up the ass by a black guy,
"Red Malcolm the Unthinkable Nihilist [that word again]", the black turds
'which all look alike, heh, heh".

The writing on the ass groping and sizing up is so...only Pynchon,
resonates into making one--me- feel all kinds of unwanted groping
happenings in real life.

On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 4:06 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

> Brown is fecundity.  White is sterility.
>
> It's interesting that the Japanese color for death is white, but the
> Western color for death is black.
>
> Re. fecundity, and Pynchon's love of pigs,  both featured large in the
> Saturnalia festival, that is pigs and fecundity...  Pigs are a Roman symbol
> of fertility.
>
> Pigs, Shit, and Fecundity.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturnalia
>
> *Saturnalia* was an ancient Roman festival
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_festival> in honour of the deity
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Roman_deities> Saturn
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_(mythology)>, held on 17 December
> of the Julian calendar <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_calendar> and
> later expanded with festivities through to 23 December. The holiday was
> celebrated with a sacrifice at the Temple of Saturn
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_Saturn>, in the Roman Forum
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Forum>, and a public banquet,
> followed by private gift-giving, continual partying, and a carnival
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnival> atmosphere that overturned Roman
> social norms <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Roman_culture>:
> gambling <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dice#History> was permitted, and
> masters provided table service for their slaves
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_ancient_Rome>.[1]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturnalia#cite_note-1> The poet Catullus
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catullus> called it "the best of days"
>
> Topsy Turvy Reality, "The best of days."
>
> David Morris
>
> On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 3:28 PM, János Széky <miksaapja at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In the Shit 'n' Shinola subchapter, V 688.
>>
>> 2016-05-21 21:27 GMT+02:00 Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Demonic vision: racial fantasy and southern fiction - Page 133
>>> <https://books.google.com/books?id=t7RZAAAAMAAJ&q=Pynchon+%2B+blacks'+skin+the+color+of+shit&dq=Pynchon+%2B+blacks'+skin+the+color+of+shit&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi58d3j8uvMAhUEWT4KHdBWDvQQ6AEIIzAB>
>>>
>>> <https://books.google.com/books?id=t7RZAAAAMAAJ&q=Pynchon+%2B+blacks'+skin+the+color+of+shit&dq=Pynchon+%2B+blacks'+skin+the+color+of+shit&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi58d3j8uvMAhUEWT4KHdBWDvQQ6wEIJDAB>
>>> https://books.google.com/books?id=t7RZAAAAMAAJ
>>> Alan Henry Rose
>>> <https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&safe=active&tbm=bks&tbm=bks&q=inauthor:%22Alan+Henry+Rose%22&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi58d3j8uvMAhUEWT4KHdBWDvQQ9AgIJTAB> -
>>> 1976 - ‎Snippet view - ‎More editions
>>> <https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&safe=active&tbm=bks&q=editions:zKMOALl80VkC&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi58d3j8uvMAhUEWT4KHdBWDvQQmBYIJjAB>
>>> For Pynchon's black men are touched by the white psychological process
>>> which associates the Negro's color with death: Shit, now is the color white
>>> folks are afraid of. Shit is the presence of death, not some abstract-arty
>>> character with a scythe ...
>>> Thomas Pynchon - Page 197
>>> <https://books.google.com/books?id=tD5bAAAAMAAJ&q=Pynchon+%2B+blacks'+skin+the+color+of+shit&dq=Pynchon+%2B+blacks'+skin+the+color+of+shit&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi58d3j8uvMAhUEWT4KHdBWDvQQ6AEIKDAC>
>>>
>>> <https://books.google.com/books?id=tD5bAAAAMAAJ&q=Pynchon+%2B+blacks'+skin+the+color+of+shit&dq=Pynchon+%2B+blacks'+skin+the+color+of+shit&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi58d3j8uvMAhUEWT4KHdBWDvQQ6wEIKTAC>
>>> https://books.google.com/books?id=tD5bAAAAMAAJ
>>> Harold Bloom
>>> <https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&safe=active&tbm=bks&tbm=bks&q=inauthor:%22Harold+Bloom%22&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi58d3j8uvMAhUEWT4KHdBWDvQQ9AgIKjAC> -
>>> 1986 - ‎Snippet view - ‎More editions
>>> <https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&safe=active&tbm=bks&q=editions:TIUodZmscYoC&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi58d3j8uvMAhUEWT4KHdBWDvQQmBYIKzAC>
>>> The simpleminded Marvy sees blacks as bestial threats to American
>>> purity, while the more complex Tchitcherine reacts to ... insistence on
>>> ignoring death: Shit, now, is the color white folks are afraid of. ...
>>> Together they are a long skin surface  ...
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 3:09 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> And he's being impregnated by a big brown shlong.  Isn't there
>>>> someplace in GR where Pynchon says whites fear blacks because their skin is
>>>> the color of shit?  Maybe that's in V.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, May 21, 2016, János Széky <miksaapja at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 63 (Virgin pagination) While shit is prime reification in the Freudian
>>>>> context, here the child, first giving back what makes him an adult,
>>>>> including alcohol, is being born back through the "stone-white cervix".
>>>>>
>>>>> Also note the various signs or colors of coldness (stone-white,
>>>>> porcelain, silver) contrasted with organic brown. Animate-inanimate.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://waste.org/pipermail/pynchon-l/attachments/20160523/b1ead682/attachment.html>