GR translation:

[Mike Jing]

As I mentioned earlier, to me, these "young exiled women" refers to
Galina and Luba, possibly among others. They are just as real as the
mountains, the earthquakes and the wind. Am I wrong about this?

The following passage may be relevant:

V339.15-28  He will not come to love this sky or plain, these people,
their animals. Nor look back, no not even in the
worst marsh-bivouacs of his soul, in naked Leningrad encounters with
the certainty of his death, of the deaths of comrades, never keep any
memory of Seven Rivers to shelter with. No music heard, no summer
journey taken . . . no horse seen against the steppe in the last
daylight . . . .
       Certainly not Galina. Galina won’t even be a proper “memory.”
Already she is more like the shape of an alphabet, the procedure for
fieldstripping a Moisin—yes, like remembering to hold back trigger
with forefinger of left hand as you remove bolt with right, a set of
interlocking precautions, part of a process among the three exiles
Galina/Luba/Tchitcherine which is working out its changes, its little
dialectic, until it ends, with nothing past the structure to remember
. . . .

Who are they in love with? Tchitcherine, possibly, although it's not
quite clear from the narrative.

On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have read 'in their certain love' as love as solid and forever as the
> mountains--[phrase before it]--
> Certain carrying notions of the love so unthinkingly deep, it can hardly
> even be questioned.  Like worldview beliefs
> from the way back--Adams' Mont-Saint Michel time; as in what Wittgenstein
> said in On Certainty,
> [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Certainty].
> The exiled women do not even know anything about the real Tchitcherine, yet
> their love is there.
>
> Of course, Tchitcherine will one day be so transformed that the above and
> the other so solid
> world-changing realities--earthquakes, wind, a purge, a war, and millions of
> previous deaths
> will hardly be in his memory.
>
> Here and in a few other places, I often think of some mystical religious
> writers---such as Simone Weil
> of Gravity & Grace [sic, those key TRP terms]---who write of the Beatific
> Vision or simply the death-transformation.
> Simone basically says, yes we survive bodily death but we hardly will
> know--or care.
> Even one of the Gospellers, or Paul:  "The eye has not seen, nor the ear
> heard" etc.
>
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 8:53 PM, Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> V359.10-20, P364.31-365.3   Tchitcherine will reach the Kirghiz Light,
>> but not his birth. He is no aqyn, and his heart was never ready. He
>> will see It just before dawn. He will spend 12 hours then, face-up on
>> the desert, a prehistoric city greater than Babylon lying in stifled
>> mineral sleep a kilometer below his back, as the shadow of the tall
>> rock, rising to a point, dances west to east and Džaqyp Qulan tends
>> him, anxious as child and doll, and drying foam laces the necks of the
>> two horses. But someday, like the mountains, like the young exiled
>> women in their certain love, in their innocence of him, like the
>> morning earthquakes and the cloud-driving wind, a purge, a war, and
>> millions after millions of souls gone behind him, he will hardly be
>> able to remember It.
>>
>> What's the meaning of "in their certain love" and "in their innocence of
>> him"?
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