Re: GR translation: lined up with the rooms’ diagonals

[Jochen Stremmel]

I'm as you all know no native speaker, but to my German dominated
grammatical thinking the comma doesn't exclude the possibility that lined
up refers to the circles. When I read the passage now for the first time in
years it seemed to me that the commas around staggering around in circles
emphasize this little adverbial phrase, separate it from the square angle
rooms, making it center of the sentence. I hope this makes sense.

2017-12-20 20:01 GMT+01:00 Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net>:

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> > To my thinking this just doesn’t explain the insertion of a comma that
> if removed would make the reference from the circles to the diagonals more
> pronounced and seems to me to have no other grammatical purpose but to
> block that connection. Jochen, how do you see the comma functioning ?
> >> On Dec 20, 2017, at 10:02 AM, Jochen Stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, Mike, what I meant with my answer is exactly that: In my eyes the
> the present participles screaming and staggering are referring to "the two
> of them", while the perfect participle lined up refers to the circles they
> are staggering around in.
> >>
> >> 2017-12-20 15:54 GMT+01:00 Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>:
> >> I can't speak for Jochen, but his answer is usually completely
> straight. I'm sure he'll correct me if I'm wrong here.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Mike,
> >>
> >> What Joseph writes in the first paragraph is what I may not have said
> as clearly over a couple of rushed emails,
> >> but it is what I think too, as I keep rereading--and looking up room
> diagonals EXACTLY!
> >>
> >> I guess it leads to Jochen's straight-on, single word answer, I guess.
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:25 AM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net>
> wrote:
> >> Seems to me that the comma is  a way  of insuring that the reference is
> not to the circles , but it could be to ‘staggering' or 'the two of them'.
> I still don’t get how you stagger around and line up with diagonals. There
> would, however,  be other ways of runnng all over around a suite than lined
> up with the diagonals,  like parrallel to the right angles or in circular
> or non geometric frenzy.
> >> Perhaps he deliberately uses a confused  image to amplify the frantic
> state of the runners. The line has the effect for me of being a setup for
> the more directly comical line about Jamf’s celebrated molecule with the so
> called Pokler singularity. It sort of connects a crazed translogical state
> to the peculiarities of the drug. This fits with the translogical effects
> of the drug on Slothrop and hs predictive map.
> >>  I also connects the imipolex G to Pokler and his part in the
> swartzgerat.
> >>
> >>> On Dec 19, 2017, at 10:25 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Well, in simple grammar, the sentence works, doesn't it, if
> "staggering around in circles" were not there? So, "run screaming all over
> the suite" might be what is lined up with the room's diagonals?..but I
> don't know what that means, I guess...How else would one run around a suite
> but lined up with the diagonals if done 'all over' the suite....
> >>> ...until I see them staggering around in circles that are lined up,
> etc....
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Mike Jing <
> gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> I have no idea. If you have anything in mind, I'd be glad to hear it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 5:10 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> Why the comma after circles?
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Jochen Stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> Yes.
> >>>
> >>> 2017-12-19 20:09 GMT+01:00 Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>:
> >>> V702.29-35, P716.26-32   For 15 minutes the two of them run screaming
> all over the suite, staggering around in circles, lined up with the rooms’
> diagonals. There is in Laszlo Jamf’s celebrated molecule a particular
> twist, the so-called “Pökler singularity,” occurring in a certain crippled
> indole ring, which later Oneirinists, academician and working professional
> alike, are generally agreed is responsible for the hallucinations which are
> unique to this drug.
> >>>
> >>> What does "lined up with the rooms’ diagonals" describe here? Does it
> refer to the circles?
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