Virginia House, that major state, where the r*tfcker thinkers of Southern fascism grew, is no longer Republican. By one vote. Voting matters.

[msacha1121 at gmail.com]

You’re all correct in that I should have given more attention to the wider results instead of responding to the single vote in the subject line. Admittedly I hadn’t seen any overall voting numbers/splits for the House races, which I had assumed were closer than that for the governor - going back, all the breakdowns I’m looking at lack this information. And I’m aware of course of the brutal disadvantage of gerrymandering. What I mainly picked up from coverage (NYT analysis, for instance) was that, according to the papers anyway, voters were mostly repudiating Trump and Trump-ism as opposed to voting for candidates or their policies per se. Not that there’s anything wrong with wanting to put him and his camp’s reactionary ideas out to pasture, but I’m uncomfortable with the seeming lack of constructive policy proposals to go with it. Also, I’d like to think we can agree that Alabama was very close, disturbingly so given the nature of that race.

Telling, though, that kneejerky thinks that defending Stein’s ability and right to run for office is a fellating gesture. I think she’s a nut, and I’d never vote for her, but I find the phenomenon of shaming her for running at all disturbing.

> On Dec 21, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> But by all means, keep sucking Jill Stein's dick. See what that gets you.
> 
> J
> 
>> On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 6:59 AM, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Oops... sorry. Hadn't seen the followups by the time I wrote mine.
>> 
>> Yeah... "scraping by" (ffs)
>> 
>> J
>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 6:57 AM, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hey, guess what? The Dems had to win Virginia 55/44 to "win by a single goddamn vote" in one district. To get a tie. Because of GOP gerrymandering, they had to have a landslide... to score a tie.
>>> 
>>> Did you know that?
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 2:42 PM, <msacha1121 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It’s pernicious to suggest that minor political parties and candidates be barred from participating in elections, and especially worrying when it’s offered from an ostensibly progressive viewpoint. When, even if it could somehow be proved that it would have a demonstrable effect, do you apply the metric of necessity for marginal candidates to exempt themselves for the “greater good?” Just now in trump times, or as a matter of course?
>>>> 
>>>> To my view when you win/lose by a single goddamn vote, that’s hardly a resounding affirmation or renunciation of either platform. Dems should not be patting themselves on the back for scraping by as the preponderance of citizens’ wealth is being gutted, environmental regulations dismantled, federal courts packed with literally incompetent sycophants. It might be just barely enough right now to run on the “we’re not them” platform against pedophiles and hyperventilating nationalists, but it won’t work forever, nor is it right. The onus is on them to appeal to the nation at large, not Jill Stein/whatever harmless half-crank politician wants to appeal to a hyper-minority to take one for the team.
>>>> 
>>>> > On Dec 20, 2017, at 1:42 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I would say you are a much more useful  than Stein when it comes to being used by those who would undermine the first amendment and continue fascistic wars of aggression and who want to revive McCarthyism. But I don’t support the use of personal insults like idiot, which is a meaningless word at this point with origins in the mockery of disabled people, which is the kind of thing that Trump does.
>>>> > Jill Stein doesn’t like war, she wants health care for all and green economy. That is why she is hated. Tell me why those are bad ideas.
>>>> >> On Dec 20, 2017, at 7:52 AM, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hey, Joseph Tracy!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> By your lights, would Jill Stein count as a useful idiot?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Jerky
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 11:09 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> Jill Stein wasn't on the ballot.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> >> From: Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>>>> >> Date: Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 11:02 PM
>>>> >> Subject:
>>>> >> To: Me at G <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/943211847465033728
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> > -
>>>> > Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
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>>>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l
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