Katje's peer

[Keith Davis]

What is the usual Western rationality?

On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 4:41 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

> Up to you, of course.  But when you say things like "The novel is too
> deconstructive for the usual Western rationality,"  you should expect some
> blow-back, mostly because it is flat wrong.
>
> David Morris
>
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Bruno Nogueira <bruno.laze at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Didn't know amateur discussion was prohibited here. I'll go back to my
>> lurker status.
>> About being silly, sometimes I forget that most people avoid being
>> earnest if it's not masked in irony, sarcasm, etc.
>>
>>
>> 2017-01-03 15:13 GMT-06:00 Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> I considered that, but thought my answer could use some explication...or
>>> maybe I just don't when to shut up!
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 4:10 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just in case you misunderstood, I was asking Bruno, not you, Keith.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, here's another answer. Most, possibly all, of the people who come
>>>>> here, and have been here for a while, are here because we're big fans of
>>>>> Pynchon's work. That means we've all put a lot of time into reading and
>>>>> re-reading and discussing his work. Plenty of people here are ready at any
>>>>> time to jump into discussions of meaning and interpretation, e.g. all of
>>>>> the supportive response to Mike Jing's translation efforts.
>>>>> Serious questions always, or usually, anyway, receive serious
>>>>> responses. On the other hand, questions that have to do with details that
>>>>> can, and only in my humble opinion, should, be discovered by a serious
>>>>> reading of the text, are likely to be met with silly answers, or, as would
>>>>> have been better in the present case, on my part, no answer.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 2:15 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you trying to sound silly?  If so, good job!
>>>>>> David Morris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 3, 2017, Bruno Nogueira <bruno.laze at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is very pleasing to fill gaps in memory with imagination!
>>>>>>> But you are right, Keith. I have lots of reading to do, as always.
>>>>>>> Don't we all?
>>>>>>> Even so, someone said that GR should be read the way we listen to
>>>>>>> jazz. Maybe words (/the music sheet) aren't that important as the soul and
>>>>>>> abstract meaning (/the phenomenology of music). Our abstract concept of
>>>>>>> Katje may be more important than the referential details. How do you feel
>>>>>>> about her? I suspect that, regarding GR, if we don't listen to what we
>>>>>>> feel, the whole novel implodes (like jazz!): nothing narrated is
>>>>>>> trustworthy, is it? Like the old hippie said: "I don't have words. I have a
>>>>>>> soul."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Katje is a spy? She works for whom? Us or Them?...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2017-01-03 11:21 GMT-06:00 David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah,  I don't remember things the way Bruno tells them...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David Morris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You have some reading to do.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Www.innergroovemusic.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2017, at 11:54 AM, Bruno Nogueira <bruno.laze at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Except that Katjer worked for the Germans, didn't she? My memory
>>>>>>>>> fails me---I remember one of her first episodes depicting a threesome with
>>>>>>>>> Blicero and Enzian, at the V2 shack, where they all lived like rats. She
>>>>>>>>> was then sent by Bliss to London, to spy on the White Visitation.
>>>>>>>>> Btw, what is the relation between Pirate Prentice, Katje, and
>>>>>>>>> Slothrop?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Happy new year to you all!
>>>>>>>>> Bruno
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2017-01-02 16:53 GMT-06:00 Bob Berg <robertberg5125 at comcast.net>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/teenager-nazi-armed-resis
>>>>>>>>>> tance-netherlands-876?utm_source=dmfb
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> www.innergroovemusic.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> www.innergroovemusic.com
>>>
>>>
>>
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