NP - Chemical Weapons Used in Syria... (or WERE they?)

[David Morris]

Wow!  You go girl!  You also go on and on, but at least you've got content.

My thoughts:

1.  If you are going to dismiss atrocities as fake, don't do so reflexively
or caculatively like NRA Sandy Hook deniers.  Russia now says it's all
fake.  I believe that is an absurd position.  Do you really believe this?

2.  I don't think you are competent to provide evidence counter to the
conclusions of those you oppose.  You haven't done so yet.  You just don't
want to believe those conclusions.

David Morris

On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 5:31 PM Thomas Eckhardt <thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de>
wrote:

> Exactly. The White Helmets (founded and trained by "former" British
> officer James Le Mesurier in Gaziantep, Turkey, funded by the UK, the
> US, the Netherlands, Germany, France etc. to the tune of 100 to 200
> million dollars, working only in territory held by Islamists and leaving
> with the Islamists when they are driven out, and always immediately
> present at every alleged atrocity site with their cameras, saving
> children from the rubble TM and even cats as if in a parody of "Wag the
> Dog", except it couldn't be more serious because children and cats
> always work), the Syrian American Medical Society and Doctors Under Fire
> (one of whose directors is Hamish de Bretton-Gordon, a "former"
> "commanding officer of the UK Chemical, Biological, Radiological and
> Nuclear (CBRN) Regiment and Nato’s Rapid Reaction CBRN Battalion" who
> writes for the Guardian and Bellingcat and is consulted as an expert by
> everybody and works closely with Ian Panell who directed the
> BBC-"documentary" "Saving Syria's Children" which contains staged scenes
> of atrocity propaganda as documented on
> https://bbcpanoramasavingsyriaschildren.wordpress.com/ where you can see
> the incriminated scene on the top of the page (and if you believe that
> this is authentic, you'll believe anything), and who also trained Syrian
> doctors with regard to CW (taking samples etc.) as early as 2013,
> perhaps even 2012, brought back samples of CW from Syria, analysed them
> and with gravitas assessed the findings which invariably pointed to
> Syrian culpability and still has an office at Porton Down despite being
> retired from service and is the supposedly objective expert on all
> matters concerning CW in the Western Press) are organisations that have
> been founded and are being funded as we speak precisely for the purpose
> of shoveling atrocity propaganda to the Western media who uncritically
> accept it and built the desired narrative.
>
> If we survive this, the media will say that they have been played. This
> is not the case. They are part of the propaganda machine.
>
> But it is not only the media. It is also the OPCW which bases its report
> about Khan Sheikoun in which they say that they are "confident that the
> Syrian Arab Republic is responsible for the release of sarin at Khan
> Shaykhun on 4 April 2017" (this is what Mark Kohut keeps taunting me
> about) mainly on the accounts of eyewitnesses and activists because they
> could not enter the area because the "moderate rebels" would have
> chopped their heads off and also without a chain of custody as it was
> the White Helmets who brought the samples to Turkey which would not hold
> water in any courtroom in the civilized world but seems to suffice to
> risk WW III and all the while not letting the fact that many people were
> admitted to hospitals before the attack took place ("Certain
> irregularities were observed in elements of information analysed. For
> example, several hospitals appeared to start admitting casualties of the
> attack between 0640 and 0645 hours. The Mechanism received the medical
> records of 247 patients from Khan Shaykhun who were admitted to various
> health-care facilities, including those of survivors and a number of
> victims who died from exposure to a chemical agent") about which the
> late, great Robert Parry had something to say in
> https://consortiumnews.com/2017/09/07/a-new-hole-in-syria-sarin-certainty/
> .
>
> So, fast forward to now: Assad has no motive whatsoever to use CW unless
> he has a secret wish to die with a bayonet up his ass and have some
> psychopath politician in Washington cackle about his death. The only
> counter argument, if you want to call it that, is that Assad is an evil
> dictator and that evil dictators just want to butcher their own people
> and end up with a bayonet etc. because, you know, this is what evil
> dictators do. It does not hold water. As the former ambassador of the UK
> to Syria, Peter Ford, stated: "Assad may be cruel, he may be brutal, but
> he is not stupid." Primary school children understand that....
>
> (To give you some help here, Mark, Juan Cole has a better argument, not
> much better, granted, but not as insulting to the intellect as the one
> that you forward, perhaps you should use that one).
>
> But ok, if the evidence says it was Assad, it was Assad, however insane
> it seems. So, where is the evidence? Videos and "eyewitness accounts" of
> the White Helmets and the SAMS, says Macron, says May, says Merkel, says
> Trump, says the WHO, say the Western media, suffice to bring the world
> to WW III. For a detailed analysis of the videos presented, see:
>
>
> http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/04/syria-manipulated-videos-fail-to-launch-world-war-iii.html
>
> But of course, Trump didn't need no stinkin'evidence. Although this is
> the first time that OPCW inspectors are able to work on the ground on
> the invitation of the Syrian government, with Russia guaranteeing their
> safety, because the "moderate rebels" have left the scene, the US, the
> UK and France decided to strike before the OPCW investigations even
> started. What kind of person would not be thinking of the prelude to the
> Iraq War? Only Putin and Assad apologists, of course.
>
> The prelude to this was the completely absurd story about Vladimir Putin
> (evil mastermind, lest we forget) sending professional assassins of his
> secret service to Britain in order to kill a retired double-agent, whom
> he could have killed for several years with no repercussions at all in
> Russia but decided for some nefarious reason to keep alive, with the
> most deadly nerve agent the world has ever seen, only to find out that
> the targets, against all odds, survived.
>
> Again: If you believe this, you'll believe everything.
>
> And not only the British government, the whole Western media have been
> lying about this. Obviously.
>
> If anyone wants sources, I'll provide them.
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