AtD translation: rough-ins overlapping faster and faster

[Mark Kohut]

>From Peterthopper:

    "A bit of pointless speculation occurs to me about Pynchon's source for
the
phrase being oral rather than written - as a known jazz afficionado, he
could've copped the phrase from a conversation with another around a
drinks-laden table, with fragrant vapors in the air, and retained it
slightly altered."

I do not think this is pointless speculation but quite possibly the answer.
Under this scenario,
there is no careless typo missed even by TRP....As I wrote, I think it
quite possible that he heard
the phrase "ruff ins" or "rough-ins" in talk, and simply assumed it was the
way he wrote it. One of them there
hard to know, hidden in specialized slan*g heterographs. *

Again, neither Jochen nor I even THOUGHT of looking for a possible
alternate spelling when we searched.
Seems the relentless Mike Jing did, so all credit due. As well as to
Peterthopper.

If this reading is correct.

On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 9:45 AM, Jochen Stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Apart from the unlikeliness of a typo at that special point or place (the
> other way around would make more sense as "rough" is only spoken "ruff",
> not spelled), don't forget the "-ins".
>
> 2018-05-14 14:11 GMT+02:00 Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>:
>
>> More circumstance to the circumstantial argument: If I remember
>> correctly, there are seven (7) OED first use in print entries by OBA,
>> starting with 'shrink", in the sixties.
>> The man listens to his time.
>>
>> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 7:58 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, since we're voting, I think it is quite possible...he sat around
>>> jazz clubs and heard the talk, we know...and talked with some...
>>> who of us--except Mike Jing--even THOUGHT of the other spelling of
>>> rough, with a phrase that really isn't in the best dictionaries as written.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 7:47 AM, Jochen Stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry, Mike, but I think it's very unlikely.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2018-05-14 8:40 GMT+02:00 Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> > That's very likely. Thanks for the reply.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
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