AtD translation: a field of bells emerged into flower

[Jochen Stremmel]

Do you really mean – "with the naturalists here" – that P is saying, across
the city of Venice there's a field of bellflowers coming into bloom at
noontide?

Am Mo., 18. Feb. 2019 um 17:26 Uhr schrieb Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com
>:

> The previous post was the address of Murano, then and now part of
> Venice....for what that's worth...
> one of the 8 Venetian lagoon islands. and .9 miles from the city center,
> so to speak.
>
> I'm with the naturalists here, ......another reason is
> that Pynchon usually signals such metaphors differently, I say in purely
> impressionistic memory.
>
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 9:34 AM Jochen Stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Mike, Mike, Mark and whoever cares,
>>
>> Pynchon begins his sentence, his paragraph, his chapter with "Across the
>> city" – the city obviously being Venice, not Murano, where the boys happen
>> to come swooping in over. There's no need for a glance at Google maps, no
>> more than for reading what is written there, anyway.
>>
>> Don't think I'm riffing, btw.
>>
>> Am Mo., 18. Feb. 2019 um 15:04 Uhr schrieb Mike Weaver <
>> mike.weaver at zen.co.uk>:
>>
>> > A quick glance at Google Maps reveals the whole of the north of the
>> > island is green space and there are other patches to the south of that.
>> > And we are talking about  100 years ago and more when those spaces might
>> > well have been fields rather than parks. And there are probably several
>> > campanulas native or endemic to Italy. The only one it is unlikely to be
>> > is Italian Bellflower which is native to the mountains.
>> > It is always enjoyable reading the riffing that many of you enjoy as a
>> > response to P's writing, but sometimes that is what they are - riffs,
>> > and the original is at base a poetic description.
>> >
>> > cheers
>> > Mike
>> >
>> >
>> > On 18/02/2019 07:43, Jochen Stremmel wrote:
>> > > Right, Mike, there surely is no field of bellflowers in Venice,
>> > especially
>> > > not one that emerges at noontide into flower and could be seen from a
>> > > balloon.
>> > >
>> > > Am Mo., 18. Feb. 2019 um 06:42 Uhr schrieb Mike Jing <
>> > > gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>:
>> > >
>> > >> This sound/image did cross my mind, but I wasn't sure. Is there place
>> > for
>> > >> a field of bellflowers in Murano/Venice? That's noticeable from a
>> > balloon?
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 4:07 AM Jochen Stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com
>> >
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> What about the bells of Venice, the city, ringing at noontide with
>> all
>> > >>> their might, and the flower being a metaphor for just this?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> J
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Am Sa., 16. Feb. 2019 um 04:46 Uhr schrieb David Morris <
>> > >>> fqmorris at gmail.com
>> > >>>> :
>> > >>>> My take:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Island Murano's fame is its glass monopoly.  The objects, chimneys,
>> > that
>> > >>>> rise, "emerge," above the red clay roofs, are from glass furnaces.
>> > Maybe
>> > >>>> the flower imagery is from smoke plumes, but that's pretty weak.
>> But
>> > >>> might
>> > >>>> that smoke be blue, like the bell flower?
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> David Morris
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 8:22 PM Mike Weaver <mike.weaver at zen.co.uk
>> >
>> > >>> wrote:
>> > >>>>> campanula's are known as bell flowers as here
>> > >>>>> <
>> > https://www.123rf.com/photo_55855915_field-with-wild-bellflower.html
>> > >>>>> On 16/02/2019 00:49, Mike Jing wrote:
>> > >>>>>> P243.1-6   Across the city noontide a field of bells emerged into
>> > >>>> flower,
>> > >>>>>> as the boys came swooping in over Murano, above wide-topped
>> red-clay
>> > >>>>>> chimneys the size of smokestacks, known as fumaioli, according to
>> > >>> the
>> > >>>>> local
>> > >>>>>> pilot, Zanni. “Very dangerous, the sparks, they could blow up the
>> > >>>>> balloon,
>> > >>>>>> certo,” drops of perspiration flying off his face at all angles,
>> as
>> > >>> if
>> > >>>>>> self-propelled.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> What does "a field of bells emerged into flower" mean here?
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