Gerald Howard on Delillo's Nobel

Johnny Marr marrja at gmail.com
Sun Apr 5 02:06:18 UTC 2020


As a belated coda to this thread: here’s a recent prime example of the
perils of Nobel predictions

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/newrepublic.com/amp/article/155316/will-win-2019-or-2018-nobel-prize-literature

On Thursday, April 2, 2020, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> Two early morning remarks. yes, Howard's piece is so .....tandentious when
> it is not bullshit.
> I remember when he wrote about GR and now, because he edited a DeLillo and
> has now reread
> *White Noise *it is.....'even over GR"?......
>
> Well, I reread *White Noise *again recently after having read it when
> published and I think I know
> me some *White Noise and WN *is no GR.........C'mon, folks.......
>
> and, related, only Pynchon that I know of---and I don't know much
> here---had the quiet of the aftermath
> of 9/11 and now, if a novelist is to try to capture his real social
> reality, life on and in the streets.......
>
> The best writer has to write of the empty streets.....yes, those emergency
> vehicles sirens' but also I say
> the, as I've written 'controversially" the self-organizing wider of so
> much, so many in the void of the national
> response we should have had.
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 11:36 PM Becky Lindroos <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
> > He’s lost and doesn’t often get good communications.
> >
> > My first thought was that he was not Trump-  more like the guy in Point
> > Omega who is soooo alone and lost.  But with some tones of the guy in
> > Underworld who was watching the Texas Highway Killer on TV with spotty
> > reception.  Only instead of Texas killings,  he’s seeing scenes of life
> > like in Zero K and instead of the screen-shot fighting in the hills of
> the
> > Middle East he sees the streets of cities plagued with people dying of
> > C-Virus.
> >
> > What if he’s denied port wherever he goes and doesn’t ever really know
> > what’s happening? It kind of fits either way - Trump or “everyman.”  The
> > idea seems existentially spooky to me. .
> >
> > Becky
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Apr 1, 2020, at 7:37 PM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > The man in the boat is Trump? You may have just ruined me for
> life....kd
> > >
> > > Www.keithdavismusic.com
> > >
> > >> On Apr 1, 2020, at 10:30 PM, Becky Lindroos <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> LOL - yes -
> > >>
> > >> Becky
> > >>
> > >>> On Apr 1, 2020, at 6:50 PM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> and that man will be Trump, Becky
> > >>>
> > >>> rich
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 2:25 PM Becky Lindroos <
> bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>
> > wrote:
> > >>> Can you imagine a book by DeLillo based on the C-virus?   Think
> themes
> > of paranoia and fear and media along with some consumerism and so on -
> the
> > usual suspects.  A man is adrift in a yacht while the pandemic rages. He
> > has some satellite communication when it doesn’t go out.  Switch from
> those
> > scenes to scenes of semi-chaos in NYC or Italy or Iran or China.  ??   -
> I
> > can see D’s head spinning out on the possibilities.
> > >>>
> > >>> Becky
> > >>>
> > >>>>> On Apr 1, 2020, at 9:31 AM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> there's no arguing that but man was Peter Handke a terrible choice.
> > Delillo
> > >>>> probably doesnt much care. Hopefully we get one more book from him.
> > He said
> > >>>> he was writing something that takes place 3 yrs hence but who knows
> > now
> > >>>> with covid--I'm guessing our current dilemma has upended a number of
> > >>>> projects
> > >>>>
> > >>>> rich
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 12:05 PM Johnny Marr <marrja at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I should have said white western MALE authors
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> And with good reason - we can all compile our own list of great
> > writers
> > >>>>> who didn’t receive the Nobel, and women are particularly
> > underrepresented.
> > >>>>> John Galsworthy but not Virginia Woolf?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Wednesday, April 1, 2020, Johnny Marr <marrja at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> I think De Lillo deserves it but I also think the Nobel committee
> > are
> > >>>>>> likely conscious of over representing white Western authors, so I
> > doubt he
> > >>>>>> will win it this year, especially as Handke was awarded it in
> 2019.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Same reason McCarthy, Kundera, Stoppard and indeed TRP are
> unlikely
> > to
> > >>>>>> win it this year.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Wednesday, April 1, 2020, Jochen Stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> »richly«, yes?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Am Mi., 1. Apr. 2020 um 16:53 Uhr schrieb rich <
> > richard.romeo at gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>> :
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > https://www.bookforum.com/print/2701/why-don-delillo-
> deserves-the-nobel-23926
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Why Don DeLillo deserves the Nobel
> > >>>>>>>> GERALD HOWARD <
> > https://www.bookforum.com/contributor/gerald-howard>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Do you find it as obvious as I do that Don DeLillo richly
> > deserves to
> > >>>>>>>> receive the Nobel Prize in Literature? And right away, as in
> this
> > year?
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