Gerald Howard on Delillo's Nobel

Sun Apr 5 02:41:59 UTC 2020

Worshipping a Peace prize from an inventor of remote death projectile
warfare is really just the worship of War.

David Morris

On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 9:06 PM Johnny Marr <marrja at gmail.com> wrote:

> As a belated coda to this thread: here’s a recent prime example of the
> perils of Nobel predictions
>
>
> https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/newrepublic.com/amp/article/155316/will-win-2019-or-2018-nobel-prize-literature
>
> On Thursday, April 2, 2020, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Two early morning remarks. yes, Howard's piece is so .....tandentious
> when
> > it is not bullshit.
> > I remember when he wrote about GR and now, because he edited a DeLillo
> and
> > has now reread
> > *White Noise *it is.....'even over GR"?......
> >
> > Well, I reread *White Noise *again recently after having read it when
> > published and I think I know
> > me some *White Noise and WN *is no GR.........C'mon, folks.......
> >
> > and, related, only Pynchon that I know of---and I don't know much
> > here---had the quiet of the aftermath
> > of 9/11 and now, if a novelist is to try to capture his real social
> > reality, life on and in the streets.......
> >
> > The best writer has to write of the empty streets.....yes, those
> emergency
> > vehicles sirens' but also I say
> > the, as I've written 'controversially" the self-organizing wider of so
> > much, so many in the void of the national
> > response we should have had.
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 11:36 PM Becky Lindroos <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > He’s lost and doesn’t often get good communications.
> > >
> > > My first thought was that he was not Trump-  more like the guy in Point
> > > Omega who is soooo alone and lost.  But with some tones of the guy in
> > > Underworld who was watching the Texas Highway Killer on TV with spotty
> > > reception.  Only instead of Texas killings,  he’s seeing scenes of life
> > > like in Zero K and instead of the screen-shot fighting in the hills of
> > the
> > > Middle East he sees the streets of cities plagued with people dying of
> > > C-Virus.
> > >
> > > What if he’s denied port wherever he goes and doesn’t ever really know
> > > what’s happening? It kind of fits either way - Trump or “everyman.”
> The
> > > idea seems existentially spooky to me. .
> > >
> > > Becky
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Apr 1, 2020, at 7:37 PM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The man in the boat is Trump? You may have just ruined me for
> > life....kd
> > > >
> > > > Www.keithdavismusic.com
> > > >
> > > >> On Apr 1, 2020, at 10:30 PM, Becky Lindroos <
> bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> LOL - yes -
> > > >>
> > > >> Becky
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Apr 1, 2020, at 6:50 PM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> and that man will be Trump, Becky
> > > >>>
> > > >>> rich
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 2:25 PM Becky Lindroos <
> > bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>> Can you imagine a book by DeLillo based on the C-virus?   Think
> > themes
> > > of paranoia and fear and media along with some consumerism and so on -
> > the
> > > usual suspects.  A man is adrift in a yacht while the pandemic rages.
> He
> > > has some satellite communication when it doesn’t go out.  Switch from
> > those
> > > scenes to scenes of semi-chaos in NYC or Italy or Iran or China.  ??
>  -
> > I
> > > can see D’s head spinning out on the possibilities.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Becky
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>> On Apr 1, 2020, at 9:31 AM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> there's no arguing that but man was Peter Handke a terrible
> choice.
> > > Delillo
> > > >>>> probably doesnt much care. Hopefully we get one more book from
> him.
> > > He said
> > > >>>> he was writing something that takes place 3 yrs hence but who
> knows
> > > now
> > > >>>> with covid--I'm guessing our current dilemma has upended a number
> of
> > > >>>> projects
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> rich
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 12:05 PM Johnny Marr <marrja at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> I should have said white western MALE authors
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> And with good reason - we can all compile our own list of great
> > > writers
> > > >>>>> who didn’t receive the Nobel, and women are particularly
> > > underrepresented.
> > > >>>>> John Galsworthy but not Virginia Woolf?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Wednesday, April 1, 2020, Johnny Marr <marrja at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I think De Lillo deserves it but I also think the Nobel
> committee
> > > are
> > > >>>>>> likely conscious of over representing white Western authors, so
> I
> > > doubt he
> > > >>>>>> will win it this year, especially as Handke was awarded it in
> > 2019.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Same reason McCarthy, Kundera, Stoppard and indeed TRP are
> > unlikely
> > > to
> > > >>>>>> win it this year.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On Wednesday, April 1, 2020, Jochen Stremmel <
> jstremmel at gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> »richly«, yes?
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Am Mi., 1. Apr. 2020 um 16:53 Uhr schrieb rich <
> > > richard.romeo at gmail.com
> > > >>>>>>>> :
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > https://www.bookforum.com/print/2701/why-don-delillo-
> > deserves-the-nobel-23926
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Why Don DeLillo deserves the Nobel
> > > >>>>>>>> GERALD HOWARD <
> > > https://www.bookforum.com/contributor/gerald-howard>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Do you find it as obvious as I do that Don DeLillo richly
> > > deserves to
> > > >>>>>>>> receive the Nobel Prize in Literature? And right away, as in
> > this
> > > year?
> > > >>>>>>>> --
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> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> --
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> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> --
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> > > >>>
> > > >>
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