Liss/stepvr 4th roundup - 27/18 April (the cruelest month?) 16th

[Mark Kohut]

After coffee, this approach came to me. This is like dissing V because of
the very ugly scene with her.
It is so deeply thematic, his vision of what has happened to........Venus,
women, 'the feminine" in history.
the "soft bowels" of women as Shakespeare says of those who carry our
behind-power-dynamics selves.

On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 12:53 AM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

> It says a lot bad about VL.  Unlike homophobic scenes in GR, this isn't
> satire. It is a serious portrayal. It is the heart of VL.  It is a polemic
> of sexual dynamics. Pynchon seems to like his female characters liking
> abuse. It happens in Bleeding Edge also.  In GR it is his S&M daisy chain.
> It is a polemic about power dynamics.  That's why I earlier said Pynchon
> writes equations (of power dynamics) instead of narratives about
> characters.
>
> David Morris
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 10:51 PM Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > It says a lot about Pynchon...
> >
> > Www.keithdavismusic.com
> >
> > > On Apr 16, 2020, at 11:37 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > >>
> > >> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 16:12:58 -0500
> > >> From: David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
> > >>
> > >> I really disliked VL's portrayal of Women being
> > >> (down below) weak-knee'd for male dominance.
> > >>
> > >> ----  would you be willing to elaborate?
> > >
> > >
> > > I think most people here don't need me to elaborate.
> > >
> > > Frenesi betrays her most trusted friends and family for Brock Vond.
> That
> > > seems to me the most important turn of events in VL.
> > >
> > > At the end, DL spreads her legs up into the night sky asking for Brock
> to
> > > come take her.
> > >
> > > Both episodes are unexpected and dramatic.  And ugly.
> > >
> > > David Morris
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > > --
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> >
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