NP: Re: more new Dylan

[Jamie McKittrick]

I like the idea of Dylan watching an Indiana Jones movie.

On Fri, 24 Apr 2020 at 02:40, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

> We must have different thoughts on what lyrical means.  To me it means a
> play of sound.  Tripping of tongue and lilt of sounds.
>
> I think Dylan's verse here is more grafitti than sonnet.  It is a
> purposeful mix of disconnected icons, tied together by the last line.
>
> I never said it was profound.  Others have said similar things with much
> greater finess.  But not many pop stars have.
>
> David Morris
>
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 7:36 PM ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Doesn't need to be lyrical; didn't say it did, didn't say it is
> > lyrical or isn't lyrical. I'll say it now, it is lyrical.
> > A lyric poem has a song-like quality and an exploration of emotions
> > and personal feelings.
> >
> > While poetry itself can't be defined, one of the characteristic of
> > some great poetry is compression, that is, as you noted, "it makes a
> > statement with very few words."
> >
> > But on four counts I say the lyric is not great poetry:
> > it does not appeal to the intellect, there is nothing much to think
> > about here, the final line of the excerpt Thomas posted is only one
> > that nearly induces wonder or thought, but it's awkward, bad. Lost
> > things are made good?
> > it fails to excite the senses
> > it does not move with emotion
> > and it lacks imagination
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 4:39 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > It might not be lyrical, but that's not the only standard of poetry.
> It
> > references familiar icons to make a statement with very few words.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:04 PM ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Not sure what's inappropriate.
> > >> It's not great poetry, that's for sure.
> > >>
> > >> > "I’m just like Anne Frank, like Indiana Jones
> > >> > And them British bad boys, the Rolling Stones
> > >> > I go right to the edge, I go right to the end
> > >> > I go right where all things lost are made good again"
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