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[gary webb]

*modern finance is mostly alchemy now. I doubt 90% of those on the
streetmaking millions could explain exactly what they do. alot people
hatecapitalism and rightly so in many instances but it's gonna be hard to
kill*

100% agree man... a-and most modern finance is computer algorithm driven,
so there are very little rapidly diminishing human inputs... your comment
reminds me of kpunk, or Mark Fisher's book Capitalist Realism: Is There No
Alternative
(
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalist_Realism:_Is_There_No_Alternative%3F).
It's a little over 10 years old and there really hasn't been a suitable
alternative to capitalism proposed and/or developed despite the fact that
we've had two major existential crises (2008 & COVID)...

On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 5:00 PM rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:

> u could be right about Rosemary's Baby being some great feminist horror. my
> money is on Carnival of Souls.
>
> u know Im reading V again and it's amazing to me he was in his youngish 20s
> when he wrote it, with such world-weariness; like I felt about BE, a man in
> his late 70s to write with such vigor (though I have alot of issues with
> the book)
>
> Pynchon's villains in the later books are front and center--no
> sugar-coating romance of Blicero with the Scarsdale V, Mr Ice types.  he
> lays it out
>
> so why convolute things.
>
> modern finance is mostly alchemy now. I doubt 90% of those on the street
> making millions could explain exactly what they do. alot people hate
> capitalism and rightly so in many instances but it's gonna be hard to kill
>
> that;s the thing. the system is like that feeling one had under
> psychedelics that everything was this massive beautiful thing that even
> evil and other shit would be absorbed by the sheer size and weight of it (I
> know this sounds trite) with no fuss or muss (though I did see rumsfeld
> emerge out the side of W's head once like some horror from Carpenter's The
> Thing but that's another story). that's modern capitalism, it just absorbs
> everything but it's not a beautiful thing. it's an efficient thing. and woe
> to us all
>
> finally, that is what Pynchon does, the good old misdirect personified.
> good way not to be played out or irrelevant soon after not that he probably
> cares about that all that much
>
> rich
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 4:09 AM Cometman via Pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks, rich, for the kind words. I did suspect the doctor, but it’s nice
> > to know. The whole story of Rosemary’s Baby has probably been analyzed in
> > feminist terms as the patriarchy presiding over the ceding of autonomy in
> > child rearing, hasn’t it?
> > My analysis of the choice of villain in BE needs a little work.
> > We know what we know (although there is more info than my buffers can
> > store - I guess that is why tv news repeats a manageable number of facts
> > over and over, that and supporting a narrative, of course) but we don’t
> > know the full extent of what we don’t know.
> >
> > But I do know that Horst’s unoccupied office was not part of
> > Cantor-Fitzgerald, so the direction of attention would be towards the
> > relatively humble sphere of commodity trading rather than municipal
> bonds.
> > And the notion that he’s able to continue his trading in the Midwest, and
> > even make a vacation of it for himself and their sons, suggests a focus
> on
> > the ways life goes on after a cataclysmic event.
> > The rise of gaming and its implications as a method towards social
> control
> > (at one point the kids play a game where they shoot people for having bad
> > manners, and at another point they inform an adult that, sorry, kids
> don’t
> > read anymore) and away from it (DeepArcher); the financial implications
> of
> > big computing taking its place among multinational movers and shakers in
> > the person of Gabriel Ice; the personification of the executive arm of
> > neoliberalism in Windust, his undoing, and his human side; the rise of
> > Russian influence in the US - all of these and more seem to be larger
> > themes in BE than the events of late Fructidor 2001.
> > Did the Internet (and by extension, the plot of BE, a-and human progress
> > itself) interpret them as damage and route around them?
> > --
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> >
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