Impeachment Briefing: The House prepares to vote

Erik T. Burns eburns at gmail.com
Wed Jan 13 10:13:28 UTC 2021 

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On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 7:08 AM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

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> > Momentum is building among Republicans to impeach Trump.
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> > January 12, 2021
> >
> > By Noah Weiland
> >
> > Welcome back to the Impeachment Briefing. The House will call on Vice
> > President Mike Pence to invoke the 25th Amendment, as momentum builds
> > among Republicans
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> >
> > to impeach President Trump.
> > What happened today
> >
> >    - The House is poised to pass a resolution late tonight formally
> >    calling on Vice President Mike Pence to strip President Trump of his
> duties
> >    by invoking the 25th Amendment, a complicated and difficult process
> >    <
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> >.
> >    The measure asks the vice president to declare Mr. Trump “incapable of
> >    executing the duties of his office and to immediately exercise powers
> as
> >    acting president.”
> >    - Mr. Pence is unlikely to do so, and Democrats plan to begin a debate
> >    on their impeachment resolution tomorrow morning, marching toward a
> vote
> >    late in the day unless Mr. Pence intervenes.
> >    - Senator Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader, has told associates
> >    that he believes Mr. Trump committed impeachable offenses
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> >.
> >    He also said that he was pleased that Democrats were moving to
> impeach him,
> >    believing that it would make it easier to purge him from the party,
> >    according to people familiar with his thinking.
> >    - At least three Republicans in the House have already announced they
> >    would vote to impeach Mr. Trump. “The president of the United States
> >    summoned this mob, assembled the mob, and lit the flame of this
> attack,”
> >    one of those Republicans, Representative Liz Cheney, said. “There has
> never
> >    been a greater betrayal by a president of the United States of his
> office
> >    and his oath to the Constitution.”
> >    - Advisers to Mr. McConnell have privately speculated that a dozen
> >    Republican senators — and possibly more — could ultimately vote to
> convict
> >    the president in a Senate trial. To find Mr. Trump guilty, 17
> Republicans
> >    would need to join Democrats in voting against him.
> >    - Far from contrite, Mr. Trump said on Tuesday that his remarks to a
> >    rally before the Capitol riot last week were “totally appropriate.”
> Mr.
> >    Trump also suggested that “danger” could follow the Democrats’
> decision to
> >    impeach him a second time.
> >    - In a lengthy report
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> >    to accompany their article of impeachment, House Democrats wrote: “The
> >    president’s remaining term is limited — but a president capable of
> >    fomenting a violent insurrection in the Capitol is capable of greater
> >    dangers still. He must be removed from office as swiftly as the
> >    Constitution allows.”
> >
> > Mike Pence’s last-minute falling out
> >
> > The relationship between the president and the vice president has become
> > increasingly strained. My colleague Peter Baker, who covers the White
> > House, wrote today about a dramatic sequence of confrontations last week
> > <
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> > in which Mr. Trump lashed out at Mr. Pence for refusing to go along with
> > his attempts to overturn the election.
> >
> > I asked Peter more about how their relationship collapsed in the waning
> > days.
> >
> > Lawmakers seem to be latching onto the idea that Mr. Trump effectively
> > unleashed a mob on his own vice president. Is that how you see it?
> >
> > That’s the view from Penceworld. Trump sicced the mob on him. He may not
> > have imagined Trump supporters were going to march through the Capitol
> > chanting, “Hang Mike Pence.” But that was a foreseeable outcome of the
> > incendiary language he used against not just his political opponents but
> > his own vice president. It boggles the mind.
> >
> > What kind of drama does the 25th Amendment resolution bring to this?
> >
> > It puts Trump a little bit on his back legs. Yes, he’s mad at Pence, but
> > he has to realize Pence holds his fate in his hands. Pence has a vehicle,
> > an instrument, to respond if Trump completely shoves him to the side.
> >
> > Unlike with his ceremonial role certifying the election, the 25th
> > Amendment for Pence is a subjective choice. What he’s been telling people
> > is that the mechanism is unwieldy and it might not work the way people
> > want. You would have a situation where two people could be claiming to be
> > president at the same time. There are factors there that go beyond
> personal
> > loyalty.
> >
> > What did last Wednesday represent in a Trump-Pence relationship typically
> > marked by fealty?
> >
> > Pence finally met a juncture that he couldn’t finesse. He finally met a
> > potential breaking point with Trump he couldn’t get out of. For three
> years
> > and 11 months he had managed to sidestep every possible blowup by saying
> > things to make Trump just happy enough to manage Trump’s red line. This
> was
> > finally one he couldn’t do that with.
> >
> > What does it say about Trump’s presidency that it’s ending in an
> > impeachment so convulsive that it’ll carry over to the next president’s
> > term?
> >
> > It’s completely unthinkable and wholly predictable.
> > Inside the White House
> >
> > Mr. Trump’s refusal to condemn his own words was part of a decades-long
> > Trump playbook, my colleague Maggie Haberman, who also covers the White
> > House, told me today. She referenced a video Mr. Trump recorded last week
> > acknowledging there would be a transition of power — the closest he has
> > come to a formal concession.
> >
> > “This is always what he does. This was inevitable,” she said of Mr.
> > Trump’s comments today. “When he gives some kind of concession, as he did
> > in that video last week, he doesn’t get the praise he thought he would
> for
> > it and worries he looks weak.”
> >
> > Maggie walked me through two other unusual dynamics to help explain how
> > Mr. Trump and the White House are girding for this round of impeachment.
> >
> > 1. The legal team won’t be the same.
> >
> > For the last impeachment, Mr. Trump was represented by Pat Cipollone, the
> > White House counsel, and two other top White House lawyers. Outside
> lawyers
> > — Jay Sekulow and Marty and Jane Raskin, who defended him in the Mueller
> > investigation — also joined the effort. This time around, Mr. Trump won’t
> > have any help from that group.
> >
> > “My sense is that people don’t want to do this,” Maggie said. “There is
> > just widespread anger at him over what took place, internally.”
> >
> > In the last impeachment, Maggie added, “a majority of them genuinely
> > believed that there was an overreach even if they were uncomfortable with
> > the language of the call,” referring to Mr. Trump’s conversation with
> > Ukraine’s president. “Enough of them didn’t believe it was an impeachable
> > offense.”
> >
> > 2. Rudy Giuliani, implicated in the riot, could be Mr. Trump’s lead
> lawyer
> > in a trial.
> >
> > Rudy Giuliani, who has spent months fanning baseless voter fraud
> > accusations, arguably helped lead Mr. Trump to his first impeachment. He
> > also played a role in the events leading up to last Wednesday’s riot,
> > telling the gathering of Trump supporters that it was time for “trial by
> > combat.” That would put him in the unusual position of defending his
> client
> > against charges he arguably influenced with his own actions.
> >
> > That Mr. Giuliani is still at Mr. Trump’s side is an indication of their
> > long history, Maggie said.
> >
> > “There are a couple of people who will have this grand pass with Donald
> > Trump,” she said, “and he’s one of them.”
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