Dune and psychedelic desert messiahs

[Mark Kohut]

Breakeven for the film should be $400 million or less than that given the
$165 million expenditure
and the remark of the guy in this article.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dune_(2021_film)



On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 4:13 PM Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Correct. The protagonist's visionary inclination is well established
> considerably before his first contact with the psychoactive qualities of
> the "spice". In fact, I don't recall any reference to hallucinatory
> effects. That is imposed by trip-seeking viewers.
>
> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 1:09 PM Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > It does not rely on tripping.
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 3:51 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Good to hear it’s not a dog.  Early reviews said it was either sublime
> or
> > > an overwrought-yet empty mess.  Sounds like it relies on tripping?
> THAT
> > > could be a mess (usually is in film).
> > >
> > >  Thanks
> > > DM
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 3:44 PM Bruno <bruno.laze at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Saw it yesterday as well. A shout-out to Villeneuve's fidelity to
> early
> > > > sci-fi aesthetics.  Reminds me of John Harris and pre-90s book
> covers.
> > > > Villeneuve shows much skill in making authorial, fringe ergotic
> sci-fi.
> > > > What not to love when a genre goes artistic?
> > > >
> > > > Space travel: spice. A hallucinogen. To travel light is to get rid of
> > > brain
> > > > patterns.
> > > >
> > > > Le sam. 23 oct. 2021 à 12:50, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> a
> écrit
> > :
> > > >
> > > > > Went to see Dune last night, mostly Williams College kids
> attending,
> > > > > needed some escapist nonsense. It was well done I thought, good
> > acting,
> > > > > good music and sound effects if slightly over the top with the big
> > > drums.
> > > > > Visually severe, engaging, ominous in story-appropriateriate ways.
> I
> > > > > wondered if the whole heroic desert freedom fighters with Islamic
> > style
> > > > > might shake up the imagination of young watchers shaped by
> > anti-Muslim
> > > > > cultural atmosphere. Stayed quite close to the book, more
> condensed.
> > > Not
> > > > > sure visionary psychedelic messiahs leading desert rebels against
> the
> > > > > exploitation of a cruel empire has serious relevance, but it could
> > be a
> > > > lot
> > > > > worse. It is only half the first book.
> > > > >   I thought Herbert made a big mistake killing off the ecologist
> > when I
> > > > re
> > > > > read the book most of a year ago. I still think so, too central as
> a
> > > > > redeeming theme.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have an increasingly hard time with big Iron machines traveling
> > light
> > > > > years through space while people fight with swords.  We are so
> > fucking
> > > > far
> > > > > from real space travel.
> > > > >
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