Serious news from Europe on Ukraine

[David Morris]

Maybe the idea of returning to the terms of Minsk is like trying to unshoot
a gun.  A fine idea for the one holding the gun, as long as everyone
forgets the what was the agreement (Minsk) before he shot the gun, and that
HE was the one who shot it.

Let’s all forgive and forget as I walk away from the table with all the
chips I killed you to take.

On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 11:38 AM Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:

> Apparently the mainstream media is ignoring this completely. It does not
> fit the narrative and is not a signed agreement yet.  Macron’s efforts may
> be being reined in, and Biden announced he will stop Nordstream. This is
> the biggest threat US  can come up with short of starting a war. The
> sanctions are meaningless.  So  hope for a more sensible solution is
> clearly on hold if not completely vetoed by US. Zelensky may suddenly be
> removed as the US already is very pissed at him. If so it will be obvious
> that the word democracy in no way applies to Ukraine.
>
>
> > On Feb 8, 2022, at 11:01 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
> >
> > KIEV  Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has confirmed a desire to
> implement the Minsk <https://www.urdupoint.com/en/latest-news/minsk.html>
> agreements, French President Emmanuel Macron said on Tuesday after talks in
> Kiev <https://www.urdupoint.com/en/latest-news/kiev.html>.
> >
> > On Monday, Macron met with Russian <
> https://www.urdupoint.com/en/latest-news/russia.html> President Vladimir
> Putin <https://www.urdupoint.com/en/latest-news/vladimir.html> in Moscow <
> https://www.urdupoint.com/en/latest-news/moscow.html>.
> >
> > "Yesterday, President Putin <
> https://www.urdupoint.com/en/latest-news/vladimir.html> and I discussed
> this issue for a long time. And he himself confirmed his readiness to
> comply with the Minsk <https://www.urdupoint.com/en/latest-news/minsk.html>
> agreements. And thank you (Zelenskyy) for confirming your desire to
> implement these agreements during our talks (in Kiev <
> https://www.urdupoint.com/en/latest-news/kiev.html>)," Macron told a
> press conference, adding that Ukraine <
> https://www.urdupoint.com/en/latest-news/ukraine.html> has reaffirmed its
> commitment to a ceasefire in Donbas.
> > It appears  to this p-lister that Macron decided that Putin was right
> that a Nato vs. Russia war would be a no win , everybody loses  option. He
> told Zelensky which way the wind in the EU was blowing, and I think
> Zelensky may have been concerned about the bs from Biden of immediate
> threat of Russian invasion and secret Russian false flag film which was
> obviously a desperate tactic and not a reality (and not nearly as much fun
> as a pee video). Other factors may be that the US rhetoric of war and
> sanctions ( seems to be the only play in their playbook) was stupid because
> Europe needs the Gas and there are many international investors in the
> pipeline including Shell ( or one of the US biggies), and between Nato’s
> destructive powers and Russia's hypersonic missiles nobody wants to think
> too much about an actual war. And because US sanctions don’t mean shit to
> Russia/China and the Stans.
> >
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