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[Mark Kohut]

It is you I don't believe.

Wrong again every step of this situation.

And everyone knows it too.

On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 3:52 PM Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:

>      The CIA and Nato and the US government have a long history of deceit,
> and way too much practice at starting wars. Believe them at your peril.
>  What will make the difference between war and peace is whether Ukraine,
> or the Ukrainian far right, stays out of the Donbass until there is a
> ceasefire, and an agreement to not bring in mercenaries or Nato, in other
> word what Putin and his negotiators and now France agrees is the sound
> basis for resolution, the Minsk accords. If the Donabss is invaded,
> defensive weapons will be ulikely to deter conflict. Russia is already set
> up for and receiving children being evacuated from the Donbass.
>
> > On Feb 20, 2022, at 5:09 AM, Martin Dietze <mdietze at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 at 10:45, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I disagree. I hope he gets his request. Defensive weapons, not
> offensive,
> >> will save lives if the invasion  happens. That matters a lot.
> >> Look at the graphs of how outmanned and outtechnologized Ukraine is.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 9:06 PM Susan Hall-West <susanhw83 at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> It may have been a pin drop moment, but I hope the mayor of Kyiv
> rethinks
> >>> his request in order to avoid massive death and destruction of his
> >> citizens
> >>> and city. Quantity (of weapons) does not equal a "win" in this
> scenario.
> >>
> >
> > Actually only fools would dream of "winning" a war against Russia. And,
> > Mark I disagree with you here, defensive weapons will also not save
> lives,
> > if the invasion happens.
> >
> > Still giving defensive weapons to Ukraine can have an impact: since
> > Ukrainians will fight, with weapons or without (what Ukrainians have said
> > on this publicly is to be taken seriously), and the Russian regime knows
> > this, modern defensive weapons will raise the price tag for an invasion.
> > There is some chance that this may keep an invasion from happening. A war
> > against Ukraine is very unpopular in Russia, despite all the propaganda.
> > Putin can alienate his people only to a certain degree, and he is known
> to
> > usually try to limit risks.
> >
> > Hence these weapons could make the difference between war and peace.
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