GR translation: Stuffed full

Mark Kohut mark.kohut at gmail.com
Sat Mar 22 09:45:39 UTC 2025


I think it is Pynchon's great fullness of ambiguity. It is both....

On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 1:13 AM Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks for the reply, Joseph.
>
> One reason I think it refers to the halls is that "Stuffed" is italicized
> to give extra emphasis to the word "full', as opposed to the "full" in the
> previous sentence. Also, "Stuffed full" is separate from the next sentence,
> which actually describes the audience.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 9:09 AM J Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
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> > > On Mar 19, 2025, at 3:11 AM, Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > V441.16-22, P448.26-33   “Ugh,” screams Gustav, “ugh, ugh, Rossini,”
> and
> > > they’re at it again, “you wretched antique. Why doesn’t anybody go to
> > > concerts any more? You think it’s because of the war? Oh no, I’ll tell
> > you
> > > why, old man—because the halls are full of people like you! Stuffed
> full!
> > > Half asleep, nodding and smiling, farting through their dentures,
> hawking
> > > and spitting into paper bags, dreaming up ever more ingenious plots
> > against
> > > their children—not just their own, but other people’s children too!
> > >
> > > Here "Stuffed full" is still referring to the concert halls, is that
> > > correct? The published translation interpreted it as people are full
> from
> > > eating, which doesn't seem right to me.
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> > In some ways the fat  and satisfied with shlocky music  makes more sense,
> > because if the concert halls are stuffed full how would it be that nobody
> > goes to them?  Also Saure is referred to as having hairless babyfat arms.
> > Of course maybe the halls are full but not for music concerts, but no
> > mention of other uses; only the undesirable audiences who prefer Rossini
> to
> > Beethoven.
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