GR translation: Stuffed full

[Michael Bailey]

Plus Säure is a notorious stoner so one would imagine there would be
ambiguities, caesurae, lacunae, and non sequiturs in his speech as a matter
of course - it’s one of the main fun things about being a stoner (so I’ve
heard)




On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 5:52 AM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think it is Pynchon's great fullness of ambiguity. It is both....
>
> On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 1:13 AM Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the reply, Joseph.
> >
> > One reason I think it refers to the halls is that "Stuffed" is italicized
> > to give extra emphasis to the word "full', as opposed to the "full" in
> the
> > previous sentence. Also, "Stuffed full" is separate from the next
> sentence,
> > which actually describes the audience.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 9:09 AM J Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Mar 19, 2025, at 3:11 AM, Mike Jing <
> gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > V441.16-22, P448.26-33   “Ugh,” screams Gustav, “ugh, ugh, Rossini,”
> > and
> > > > they’re at it again, “you wretched antique. Why doesn’t anybody go to
> > > > concerts any more? You think it’s because of the war? Oh no, I’ll
> tell
> > > you
> > > > why, old man—because the halls are full of people like you! Stuffed
> > full!
> > > > Half asleep, nodding and smiling, farting through their dentures,
> > hawking
> > > > and spitting into paper bags, dreaming up ever more ingenious plots
> > > against
> > > > their children—not just their own, but other people’s children too!
> > > >
> > > > Here "Stuffed full" is still referring to the concert halls, is that
> > > > correct? The published translation interpreted it as people are full
> > from
> > > > eating, which doesn't seem right to me.
> > > > --
> > > > Pynchon-L: https://waste.org/mailman/listinfo/pynchon-l
> > >
> > > In some ways the fat  and satisfied with shlocky music  makes more
> sense,
> > > because if the concert halls are stuffed full how would it be that
> nobody
> > > goes to them?  Also Saure is referred to as having hairless babyfat
> arms.
> > > Of course maybe the halls are full but not for music concerts, but no
> > > mention of other uses; only the undesirable audiences who prefer
> Rossini
> > to
> > > Beethoven.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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