The Kenosha Kid

[Mark Kohut]

We, and the wiki, speculate that the Kenosha Kid refers to Orson Welles.
Circumstantial evidence
only, of course.
Reading about Orson Welles I learn that the great film critic and theorist
Andre Bazin did literally refer to
him as "the kid from Kenosha".....

On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 5:45 AM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think it is Pynchon's great fullness of ambiguity. It is both....
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> On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 1:13 AM Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> Thanks for the reply, Joseph.
>>
>> One reason I think it refers to the halls is that "Stuffed" is italicized
>> to give extra emphasis to the word "full', as opposed to the "full" in the
>> previous sentence. Also, "Stuffed full" is separate from the next
>> sentence,
>> which actually describes the audience.
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>> On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 9:09 AM J Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
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>> > > On Mar 19, 2025, at 3:11 AM, Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com
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>> > wrote:
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>> > > V441.16-22, P448.26-33   “Ugh,” screams Gustav, “ugh, ugh, Rossini,”
>> and
>> > > they’re at it again, “you wretched antique. Why doesn’t anybody go to
>> > > concerts any more? You think it’s because of the war? Oh no, I’ll tell
>> > you
>> > > why, old man—because the halls are full of people like you! Stuffed
>> full!
>> > > Half asleep, nodding and smiling, farting through their dentures,
>> hawking
>> > > and spitting into paper bags, dreaming up ever more ingenious plots
>> > against
>> > > their children—not just their own, but other people’s children too!
>> > >
>> > > Here "Stuffed full" is still referring to the concert halls, is that
>> > > correct? The published translation interpreted it as people are full
>> from
>> > > eating, which doesn't seem right to me.
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>> > > Pynchon-L: https://waste.org/mailman/listinfo/pynchon-l
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>> > In some ways the fat  and satisfied with shlocky music  makes more
>> sense,
>> > because if the concert halls are stuffed full how would it be that
>> nobody
>> > goes to them?  Also Saure is referred to as having hairless babyfat
>> arms.
>> > Of course maybe the halls are full but not for music concerts, but no
>> > mention of other uses; only the undesirable audiences who prefer
>> Rossini to
>> > Beethoven.
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