Virginia House, that major state, where the r*tfcker thinkers of Southern fascism grew, is no longer Republican. By one vote. Voting matters.

[Mark Thibodeau]

"It's not the band I hate. It's the fans."
- Halifax's own favorite sons, SLOAN



On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 5:56 PM, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I no more fault Dr Stein for running than I do Vermin Supreme (an equally
> qualified candidate). It's her idiot voters I deplore.
>
> J
>
> On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 9:49 AM, <msacha1121 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You’re all correct in that I should have given more attention to the
>> wider results instead of responding to the single vote in the subject line.
>> Admittedly I hadn’t seen any overall voting numbers/splits for the House
>> races, which I had assumed were closer than that for the governor - going
>> back, all the breakdowns I’m looking at lack this information. And I’m
>> aware of course of the brutal disadvantage of gerrymandering. What I mainly
>> picked up from coverage (NYT analysis, for instance) was that, according to
>> the papers anyway, voters were mostly repudiating Trump and Trump-ism as
>> opposed to voting for candidates or their policies per se. Not that there’s
>> anything wrong with wanting to put him and his camp’s reactionary ideas out
>> to pasture, but I’m uncomfortable with the seeming lack of constructive
>> policy proposals to go with it. Also, I’d like to think we can agree that
>> Alabama was very close, disturbingly so given the nature of that race.
>>
>> Telling, though, that kneejerky thinks that defending Stein’s ability and
>> right to run for office is a fellating gesture. I think she’s a nut, and
>> I’d never vote for her, but I find the phenomenon of shaming her for
>> running at all disturbing.
>>
>>
>> On Dec 21, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> But by all means, keep sucking Jill Stein's dick. See what that gets you.
>>
>> J
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 6:59 AM, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oops... sorry. Hadn't seen the followups by the time I wrote mine.
>>>
>>> Yeah... "scraping by" (ffs)
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 6:57 AM, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey, guess what? The Dems had to win Virginia 55/44 to "win by a single
>>>> goddamn vote" in one district. To get a tie. Because of GOP gerrymandering,
>>>> they had to have a landslide... to score a tie.
>>>>
>>>> Did you know that?
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 2:42 PM, <msacha1121 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It’s pernicious to suggest that minor political parties and candidates
>>>>> be barred from participating in elections, and especially worrying when
>>>>> it’s offered from an ostensibly progressive viewpoint. When, even if it
>>>>> could somehow be proved that it would have a demonstrable effect, do you
>>>>> apply the metric of necessity for marginal candidates to exempt themselves
>>>>> for the “greater good?” Just now in trump times, or as a matter of course?
>>>>>
>>>>> To my view when you win/lose by a single goddamn vote, that’s hardly a
>>>>> resounding affirmation or renunciation of either platform. Dems should not
>>>>> be patting themselves on the back for scraping by as the preponderance of
>>>>> citizens’ wealth is being gutted, environmental regulations dismantled,
>>>>> federal courts packed with literally incompetent sycophants. It might be
>>>>> just barely enough right now to run on the “we’re not them” platform
>>>>> against pedophiles and hyperventilating nationalists, but it won’t work
>>>>> forever, nor is it right. The onus is on them to appeal to the nation at
>>>>> large, not Jill Stein/whatever harmless half-crank politician wants to
>>>>> appeal to a hyper-minority to take one for the team.
>>>>>
>>>>> > On Dec 20, 2017, at 1:42 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I would say you are a much more useful  than Stein when it comes to
>>>>> being used by those who would undermine the first amendment and continue
>>>>> fascistic wars of aggression and who want to revive McCarthyism. But I
>>>>> don’t support the use of personal insults like idiot, which is a
>>>>> meaningless word at this point with origins in the mockery of disabled
>>>>> people, which is the kind of thing that Trump does.
>>>>> > Jill Stein doesn’t like war, she wants health care for all and green
>>>>> economy. That is why she is hated. Tell me why those are bad ideas.
>>>>> >> On Dec 20, 2017, at 7:52 AM, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Hey, Joseph Tracy!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> By your lights, would Jill Stein count as a useful idiot?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Jerky
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 11:09 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >> Jill Stein wasn't on the ballot.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> >> From: Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>>>>> >> Date: Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 11:02 PM
>>>>> >> Subject:
>>>>> >> To: Me at G <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/943211847465033728
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > -
>>>>> > Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
>>>>> -
>>>>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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