Topsy Turvey World

[Mark Kohut]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/world/middleeast/cia-syria-rebel-arm-train-trump.html

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 4:52 AM Johnny Marr <marrja at gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree on the point about the inconsistency and over-glamorisation of
> Russia by the leftist chic/luxury communism brigade, much of it fuelled by
> the idea that anything which subverts Western life must have some merit.
> This has proven a more perniciously endemic view amongst the modern left
> than many are prepared to recognise or admit to. The Guardian’s comments
> page now regularly defends positions and individuals they wouldn’t have
> dreamed of advocating for 25 years ago.
>
> HOWEVER, while we can agree that both Putin and Assad are terrible people,
> I slightly demur on your opinion over Syria. Assad is at least a secular
> leader and was (before we alienated him) something of a known entity for
> our diplomatic services to deal with. He’s a butcher of course, but no more
> so than many of the dictators we continue to readily support, and I believe
> he’s less dangerous than side he’s fighting against.
>
> Awful though this is to contemplate, and apologies for the
> over-simplification, Syria seems to boil down to a choice between Assad and
> ISIS. I don’t believe it’s just Kremlinbot propaganda to think that Putin
> may have backed the right horse over Syria while Obama may have backed the
> wrong one.
>
> (I’m also aware of the argument that the war’s really about who gets to
> drill an oil pipe line through Syria, which regrettably I also find quite
> plausible.
>
> On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Russia is now Fascist, an oppressive oligarchy regime, but Leftists can't
> > stop loving Russia. So Facists are OK with some Leftistis if they're in
> > league with Russia, because Russians CANNOT be Fascists. Somehow they are
> > still Communists in some Lefty minds.
> >
> > Assad comes to mind as the most odious of world oligarchs right now, in a
> > horrible league with Russia, exterminating his foes, civilians, children,
> > hospitals.  But it's all really the work of the US and U.K. in Topsy
> Turvey
> > World.  Conspiracies make everything so much easier to understand.
> Belief
> > is Safety.
> >
> > Do you really think either country, US or U.K., seeing both our idiotic
> > current political states, is capable of that level of deceit?
> >
> > Russians are much better at that game.  They are unified under Putin's
> > oligarchy.
> >
> > Y'all need to grow up.
> >
> > David Morris
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